12 gig of Ram and 16 gig eMMC.
2 × 2.5gb ports.
Very well reviewed SSD M2 NVME small NAS. I just ordered and will report once delivered. Perfect for home use and as media server. Runs Proxmox etc but low power cpu.
Price reduced by USD 5 cos of coupon you get by registering on site.
Review.
I like the idea of these but anyone stuffing 6 nvme drives in one is probably well off enough to buy something better and will want the extra performance to run those drives.
What would be good is if it had the power to stick an nvme to data board in and whack on an extension for 3 5 inch drives.
There isn't enough pcie lanes for n150 for 6nvme drives
Not at full speed. I believe this are running at x1, basically at pcie3 speed. I wish it would rather had an i3-i5 processor with more pcie lanes.
One comment(ozbargain.com.au) sums it up.
From the specs:
Storage Disk
M.2 2280 PCle3.0 x1(Max 4TB)*5
Admittedly they're slightly wrong on count, but everything just gets one lane, which is fine, one PCI-E 3.0 lane is faster than 2.5GbE anyway, so it's not like your storage device could go any faster anyway unless you were wanting to benchmark between two SSDs within the one device, which is pointless.
All objections noted, but its perfect to replace my tired media player computer (Intel NUC is dying). I plan to run Proxmox and run up an instance of Windows, and then have Jellyfin in a sperate container. Its a killer price compared to what NUC's sell for now. I will leave my media on a noisy HP microserver in another room.
Fair enough, but I feel that if you are planning to run Proxmox with Windows VM & other docker services that 12 gb ram is not enough. I feel it will be sluggish. This one is really good for nvme based NAS, probably even fine with few dockers including Jellyfin.
Do you need to web browse on it?
Could you just get a Google TV device (which may already be on your TV) and install the JellyFin client? And use this as a headless NAS?
Yep, noted.
We only use Windows for web browsing and media playback, so I could probably run up a Linux desktop instead along with a Linux Jellyfin client.
Has anyone done this?
The Windows installation is OTT for what we use it for, but it does have the important WAF -> wife acceptability factor.
I have Beelink eq12 N100 16gb/256gb running Proxmox. It is running HomeAssistant, plex, adguard, cloudflared & couple more. There is not enough power to run windows VM along side this. Not saying it can't be done, it's just the user experience wont be that great especially if you are looking for WAF.
Noted. Will see how it goes. I will try linux desktop that will be lighter and run faster in a container. I try to containerise everything these days.
This would be a great dual purpose OPNSense Router/NAS/Backup Server, one LAN connnection to WAN, the other to your WAP (with its ports bridged for any switching you may want) and have one device to rule them all. Mirror all the SSDs and you have redundancy as well.
Then you can set up your own VPN and remotely access all of your media as well without having to publicly share it over the internet.
I rolled out a public section of my internal wiki which has step by step for setting up OPNSense and a WireGuard client VPN/site-to-site (for joining remote networks over the internet), as well as other bits and pieces as I set them up for my home/business/friends/family and find time to document the process (makes life super easy to replicate):
https://wiki.danvelopment.net/s/31c839b1-0c4d-44b3-a6cb-e84f…
Edit: Oh it even has WiFi 6 built in, it would probably be mediocre for broadcast, but you could even use it as a WAP in a pinch.
I'm looking at the firbat machines at around $180 for one of these. Thinking I much prefer the idea is isolating my router away from everything and it's just a router with no storage or anything fancy. Got an old dell as a proxmox server to mess around with that's working great for that for now. I do keep looking at the aoostar wtr though to move form a very old 4th gen dell to make a nas more efficient. Running hex os on it and it's working great for my needs, just a little more grunt and efficiency and I think I'd use it much more.
I'm currently using Topton and Kettop devices across four houses, with WireGuard site-to-sites generating one big intranet. The one at my house has dual 2.5GbE and dual SFP+, which is perfect for running my servers to.
I won't be buying one of these, but if I wasn't running servers with huge quantities of storage already, I would have totally considered it.
I like the purpose built devices because they're passively cooled, have mountains of network ports, and the N100/N150 uses next to no power.
I just need to replace my Asus router pairing with something as it's run in to device limits issue and now if I plug more in drops half the network off. Tested pfsense on an old dell I have floating about and a usb ethernet adapter and got it working pretty easily. My next challenge before then is tackling cgnat and getting home assistant working outside the house again. K dabbled with tailscale but never found the time to finish setting it up.
@Everettpsycho: Try cloudflare tunnel. I bought a cheap domain from them and using the tunnel to access HA and basically many of my services outside. Very easy to configure and it has lots of security including different auths. It works perfectly fine with cgnat.
@ace310: Just watched a network chuck video on it and looks easy enough, cheaper buying a domain than a static ip for my limited use case. I did get tailscale working but seems like it's not working again.
@Everettpsycho: Cf tunnel itself is free if you have a domain. Lots of videos online to setup. There is a cloudflared docker which does it.
Edit: I think you have proxmox
https://community-scripts.github.io/ProxmoxVE/scripts?id=clo…
@Everettpsycho: Might be worth just switching to an ISP without CGNAT.
You don't necessarily need a static IP, DDNS services (or in my case, one of my sites just has a cronjob every minute that runs a bash script which pushes its current IP to update a DNS record on the CloudFlare API) but if you do want one, many ISPs do one-off charges instead of $10/month. Quic, Bigpipe and Mercury are examples.
Just not CGNAT.
@danvelopment: I've considered both static ip and moving but haven't made the decision yet, getting rid of cgnat seems to be getting harder with vocus buying all the providers. It's only really HA I need outside the house and I did used to like having a vpn back to the house as it did prove useful from time to time. Annoyingly going away in a few weeks and wanted remote access for then so giving a month's notice to move retailers is too late now to have it in place.
@Everettpsycho: I haven't looked into it but is a months notice too short?
Many providers, mine included, are contractless and charged monthly*. They could swap it in an hour if they really wanted to, fibre in NZ is super commoditised and we have first rate internet at low prices as a result.
*but I haven't looked into minimum cancellation periods.
@danvelopment: It usually depends on the time of the month you leave as you pay to the next cycle. I always try and time it to cutover as close to the cycle as possible. Too expensive to go paying 2 bills if it's avoidable.
Does your WireGuard setup require a static IP for this to work? I'm currently paying an additional $10 a month for static to get around double NAT so hoping WireGuard can help get around it and make sharing my Plex server easier
Yes and no, client WireGuard requires a fixed endpoint because the connection is initiated by the client.
But WireGuard site-to-site only requires a static or DDNS (of which I just have set up myself by running a script that updates my IP against a DNS record on CloudFlare using the API, and everything just points at that hostname) on one side.
So a dynamic IP can count if you keep a DNS record updated or use a DDNS hostname, but won't work behind CGNAT.
I use Quic for my fibre, and they have a one-off IP option for $50 which I chose, my friend on Mercury said he paid $50 one-off for a static as well.
I read every comment and pretended I was smart enough to understand what this device does
It's a pc that can hold a lot of fast storage. The main use is that you can access the storage over your network instead of plugging it in to your computer. If you work in an office think along the lines of mapped network drives you save documents in or you can self host alternatives to iCloud or drive.
If you don't know what it's for I doubt it's for you, it can get very technical and fiddly to set up and manage this sort of thing but once it's working it's great not relying on Google, apple or Microsoft to host all my data.
It's a small, m.2 SSD based NAS.
The rest of the discussion is around extending its functionality further (such as transforming it into a router as well), since it doesn't have a native OS like a Synology NAS would, so you'd have to install Windows or Linux on it which opens up a world of possibility. In for a penny, in for a pound.
Curious how this compares with this deal?
I am uncertain if I should pull the trigger on this or wait for a similar deal like the one above which is way cheaper.
For context, this will be my first home mini server setup and just looking to use it mostly as a media server for plex or jellyfin. I might use it for remote/local file access and/or backups but honestly thinking of just chucking in one drive for now and don't mind not having a RAID setup.
Looking at this, specs look pretty similar to the GMKtec mini pc from the previous deal but price seems way higher or am I missing something?
Depends on if you need multiple nvme drive slots for additonal storage or not. Other thing is this one has dual 2.5g nic while the previous deal was only 1gb nic. This will be good as a media server if you don't have any other storage/NAS server.
You're missing the fact it has 6x m2 NVMe slots for use as a mass-storage device, that's its defining feature.
I am not missing that fact, I just didn't think it was that useful for my use case as I might be ok with just a few TB worth of storage which I could probably achieve in the GMKtec mini PCs.
I also don't think that those features are worth almost doubling the price of the GMKtec deals but then again, maybe that is just because it does not fit my use case. I actually have no idea if having those extra NVMe slots together with the 2.5 NIC is worth that almost double the price increase compared to the GMKtec ones based on the current market.
If someone feels ambitious to try this(reddit.com) out
Edit: This adds 10gb NIC & 6 sata ports with total of 4 nvme slots + 6 sata ports. That's crazy for the size.
Jesus that's a monstrosity 🤣
You'd think spin the hdds 90 degrees and mounts a sata backplate so you can slot the drives in and out would look nearer and limit the ribbon cables.
Heck if you were beelink sell a version that's almost identical with an extended footprint and 2.5 inch caddies either in the side or top.
I still think I'd just buy the OS free Nas boxes that have 3.5 inch bays instead though and not deal with any of this hack job.
Absolutely. I would love the sff size pc with atleast 4-6 3.5" bays with maybe 2-3 nvme slots and I would definitely upgrade my 8 yrs old unraid server. I love those Jonsbo cases.
I regret not picking one of these up when they were about $420 on Ali express. They'll come back round one day.
https://aoostar.com/products/aoostar-wtr-pro-intel-n150-4-ba…
@Everettpsycho: Yup. Have seen that and ruled out due to single nvme slot. I want atleast dual nvme slot for redundancy. Rest all is perfect.
@ace310: The WiFi socket comes with an adapter to convert to m.2 for a drive. Not sure if it will perform like the other socket but it is an option. Alternatively the amd version has dual nvme out the box.
Seems like black has been restocked for preorder.
My mistake, I put the review link rather than linking to the deal. Can a mod please fix as I can't edit?
https://www.bee-link.com/products/beelink-me-mini-n150