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[Prime] AMD Ryzen 9 5900x Processor NZ$451.61 Shipped @ Amazon USA

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If you are still hanging onto your AM4 platform for a while, there are some discounts on processors that might be of interest:

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-core Unlocked Desktop Processor is now NZ$ 385.47 (excl GST), or NZ$ 366.20 (excl GST) if you have Prime. Free shipping on these.

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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3d 8-core Desktop Processor is now NZ$ 302.66 (excl GST) + free shipping
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5700X3D-16-Thread-Processor…

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  • coffeee on 15/07/2024 - 16:03

    making room for zen5

  • fairgod on 15/07/2024 - 18:13

    Just checked 5700x3d is 383.89 NZD delivered vs 419 NZD (w/o delivery) at PBTech. Is it worth the price not having local warranty though?
    Also, even though on paper 5700x3d is less powerful and has less cores compared to 5900x - most suggest getting x3d processor as it has larger cache which boosts gaming performance more than extra cores, therefore better value.

    • lividbaboon on 15/07/2024 - 18:18

      Yeah it's a pretty tight call on that one.
      To be honest I didn't notice there was a shipping fee on that CPU until I proofread the post.

    • inthiseconomy on 15/07/2024 - 18:31

      I'd buy it from amazon, CPUs failing within the warranty period pretty much doesn't happen, at least relative to other pc part failure rates.

      • Encounter Ekambaram on 08/08/2024 - 17:05

        Agree. unless you screw it up during your build (breaking a pin or incorrect application of thermal paste and toasting the processor)

    • chunder on 15/07/2024 - 20:26

      The x3d cpu's provide the best gaming performance but there's no need even for a 5800x3d, as the performance boost from a 5700x3d will be negligible, and you'd need an appropriate GPU like a 4080/4090 as well to avoid any cpu bottle neck too. There are some games where the 5900x will outperform it, but the 5700x3d will also be pumping suitable performance regardless.
      Unless you're seeking the absolute max frames and have the GPU to pair, the 5700x3d is basically the best bang for buck

      https://youtu.be/7L9rPNSuPCA?t=270
      https://youtu.be/ss7WEmRtsoE?t=967

    • felixfurtak on 20/07/2024 - 19:37
      +1

      I've bought hundreds of CPUs over the years and never had one fail, even with some hefty overclocking. It just doesn't happen. I feel for retailers here because only time they get returned is people who have physically damaged the pins on the CPU (or motherboard, depending on architecture).

  • lenso on 15/07/2024 - 19:59
    +2

    I would just get one from AliExpress. They're $250+gst shipped.

    • inthiseconomy on 15/07/2024 - 22:27
      -2

      Somewhat dodgy that they only ship with the trays though. No cooler/retail packaging.

      • kfr23 on 15/07/2024 - 22:55

        OEM parts? ExtremePC do it as well with the 12400F.

        • inthiseconomy on 15/07/2024 - 23:08
          -2

          The ones ExtremePC sell seem pretty dodgy too. They aren't an AMD/Intel official reseller, they'd have to buying from a distributor, none of which sell "OEM" CPUs. I'd assume they're buying them from wherever the aliexpress sellers are getting them from, and it's not going to be direct from Intel/AMD.

          • 1ys23 on 15/07/2024 - 23:55
            +1

            @inthiseconomy: Whats wrong with OEM in NZ lol, they still gonna have to abide by CGA. Even with Aliexpress, there isn't really any issue with buying a brand new OEM CPU, I've done it a couple of times with Intel CPU's with no issues haha
            In any case sometimes you get a discount on OEM trays compared to retail box in NZ from memory the 5800x3d OEM was a lil bit cheaper than the retail packaged one. From memory as well PBTech also use to sell an OEM 5800x3d as well its usually algs :D

          • 1ys23 on 15/07/2024 - 23:59

            @inthiseconomy: Scratch that I forgot you also get the manufacturer warranty with the retail box so you won't have to fight the retailer on cga lol, soz xDD

      • chunder on 16/07/2024 - 01:41

        Nothing dodgy about it. They're used CPU's and provided you buy from a reputable seller, they'll resolve any issues you have, as well as having the aliexpress buyer protection.

        I picked up a 5600 from aliexpress last year after lots of research checking out which stores are reputable and whether people had any issues. Found lots of people who have bought multiple times from the same sellers and never had issues. If you get one at the right time, it's a great bargin, but when you're only saving $50 or so, maybe it's not worth the risk for some.

        But just because you personally have trust issues with aliexpress or OEM parts, doesn't mean it's dodgy.

        • inthiseconomy on 16/07/2024 - 02:59

          I'm not questioning the product quality, yeah there's buyer protection and reviews etc.

          I'm just questioning how these companies can have hundreds of CPUs below 2/3 thirds of retail price for a product that typically has a sub 10% margin.
          Having googled it, it doesn't seem like anyone actually knows how they sell them so cheap.

          • lenso on 16/07/2024 - 03:25

            @inthiseconomy: The per unit price is lower because they're buying vast quantities at wholesale pricing for use in prebuilt branded systems. They're not meant to be sold direct to the consumer.

            • inthiseconomy on 16/07/2024 - 03:42

              @lenso: Like I said, wholesale price is sub 10%.

              The companies getting OEM tray CPUs are the likes of Dell and HP, AMD isn't going to be selling to some random chinese company with like 10 employees, and having googled the company in the aliexpress listing, they don't sell pre-builts, just parts, mostly old ones some of which are listed as used.

              And even if AMD did sell them tray CPUs at a huge discount, they would've stopped once they found out they were reselling them.

              • Nil Einne on 16/07/2024 - 10:47

                @inthiseconomy: One thing that seems to be missed in this thread is that there are both used and new CPUs on AliExpress. I bought a new 5700X about 2 months ago for ~US$115 including GST. (The 5700X3D was maybe US$180 or so, but I decided it wasn't worth it for me.) I think you can get some used CPUs in the 5000 series, but they're much more common in the older lines where e-waste etc makes it to China (or is already in China) as systems are decommissioned.

                Unboxed new CPUs are generally tray CPUs. I don't know about the pricing issue, but I doubt that AMD actually cares that much about people especially in China reselling tray CPUs provided they aren't doing something else dodgy like remarking them, selling them to entities banned by the US government, pretending they are retail CPUs, scalping, etc https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/171yhwp/oem_cpus_…

                Remember that 20-25 years ago it was still very common that OEM CPUs were the norm for certain popular models and retail ones were rare or didn't even exist. While things have moved on since then, there are still some CPUs only available as tray/OEM and I don't think it's moved on to where AMD (or Intel) are going to care if Chinese sellers resell tray CPUs without doing something else they won't like.

                Edit: Looks like even Ingram Micro in the US sells some tray CPUs e.g.

                https://usa.ingrammicro.com/site/productdetail?id=A300-8GU78…
                https://usa.ingrammicro.com/site/productdetail?id=A300-6TQ12…

                IIRC, ~23 years ago, one of the official AMD distributors in Malaysia used to even box AMD CPUs themselves. It seems something like that is still going on in Thailand

                https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ms8ng4/amd_next_what_t…
                https://shopee.co.th/AMD-(Next)-Ryzen-5-7600-A0153154-i.62824618.23654222681

                Possibly with the expansion of the retail processor market, AMD doesn't allow it from official distributors anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised if even with this they don't really care or try to stop their supply, since it's clearly distinguished from their normal boxes CPUs.

                • chunder on 16/07/2024 - 15:22

                  @Nil Einne: fyi there's no new cpu's on aliexpress (that you'll be paying below RRP here anyway). They are just false advertising and selling second hand CPU's and may be selecting ones which look new (no faded type or damage), if they even bother doing that. Plenty of reviews to support this with buyers complaining they thought they were buying a new cpu (and the listing states "new") but received one that was clearly used.

                  • Nil Einne on 17/07/2024 - 02:44

                    @chunder: Yet you could by 5700X3D CPUs within a few weeks of launch from AliExpress, possibly sooner. What's more likely, there some mysterious cache of used 5700X3D (and I think 5500X3D) CPUs within a few weeks of being launched or you can buy new CPUs on AliExpress? Note that RRP in NZ for a PIB is very different from the price AMD sells tray CPUs to large volume purchasers in China. So the fact a new tray CPU originating from the Chinese market is cheaper than the RRP for a PIB in NZ, means almost nothing.

                    BTW, the CPU I bought from AliExpress has a date code of 2404, so manufactured 4th week of 2024. I purchased it on the 28th March 2024 and was shipped within a few days. Of course it's possible that in the 8 weeks or so since manufacture it made it's way to someone, was used in some system and then removed for some reason perhaps due to stability or other problems, made it's way to the AliExpress seller and the seller sold it as new because it had a recent date code. Or maybe the seller went to all the effort to remark or modify the IHS. More likely though it was just a new CPU.

                    This is not to deny many sellers lie, but the better ones don't or at least they try to avoid doing so in ways that will get them caught out. IMO the thing people often miss about AliExpress is that while sellers are generally willing to lie without care, it doesn't mean everything is a lie, especially when there's reason to think it might be true. So while yes, there are plenty of USB keys, SSDs etc with fake capacity etc, there are also plenty which don't suffer this problem.

                    As I said in my earlier post, there's no reason to think it's impossible for AliExpress sellers to get new CPUs. In fact I'd go as far to say there are plenty of reasons to think sellers can obtain new CPUs. And there's no reason why sellers won't want to sell new CPUs. They will sell whatever makes them the most profit. If sellers are selling new CPUs for a premium, while I don't doubt most would be fine lying about it, they will also consider the cost to them if they're caught out too often and get a poor reputation. And so they need to pay attention to things like date codes etc, and need to find a steady supply of CPUs which will not raise eyebrows.

                    As I also said earlier, I don't know about the pricing specifics. But I think it's quite unlikely that there are really that many used 5700X3D that are mysteriously floating around within a few weeks of launch that sellers can obtained cheaply, compared to the far more plausible route of sellers just obtained new ones. While sales on AliExpress might be small, I suspect if you look at sales on Taobao etc, they'd provide very strong evidence that it simply isn't plausible that there are that many used CPUs which are being sold as new when they aren't. And it's quite likely the same for new CPUs that appear new as well. I mean sure they might occasionally get fairly recent used CPUs which they might be willing to sell as new. OTOH they might also consider how they ended up with such a new CPU, is it possible it's defective in such a way that the buyer will detect it within the return period etc?

                • inthiseconomy on 16/07/2024 - 17:35

                  @Nil Einne: Not saying they'd care about them selling tray CPUs, it's that if they were getting them at some massive like 40%+ discount and then undercutting everyone else's prices but like 30%, AMD would cut them off, but that's why I don't think AMD would sell some random company CPUs for cheap either.

                  • Nil Einne on 17/07/2024 - 02:48

                    @inthiseconomy: Perhaps if this was happening on Amazon. I quite doubt that they care about it happening on AliExpress or for that matter in most of the developing world. I just don't see a reason why they'd care, PIB are their own thing and have their advantages, but tray CPUs also have their place in such markets and they'd much rather people buy an AMD tray CPU than a Intel CPU (tray or PIB), so better to just let the market be as it is. Remember they're just selling these CPUs at the price they would sell any other customer buying them in that volume in that market so they aren't losing from the sale to that customer, they've already decided it's fine to sell them at that price. They're only losing if people would have bought a more expensive PIB or the tray CPU somehow causes their reputation to suffer or they have to incur an added cost. And I suspect the amount extra they make from the PIB isn't actually that much.

                    If you're thinking retailers are going to put pressure on AMD over it, well it's not like the market is particularly clean or simple, I know at least 3 or so years ago, Microcenter in the US often has deep discounts compared to Amazon and other retailers. I assume this was in part because AMD was giving them good deals. (WD have their famous Easy Stores they provide to Best Buy which also seem to be a sweetheart deal.) But in any case, AliExpress is a non factor in the US. Even in Western Europe I don't think it's a big deal. So I doubt Amazon US, Amazon UK, DE etc are going to complain to AMD that AliExpress prices are unfair to them. Perhaps Amazon AU may care a little more, still I doubt they care much, ultimately the CPU market is too small for it to matter to them and the competition cross-over probably isn't that large. As for PB Tech, I'm fairly sure AMD WGAF if PB Tech complain that AliExpress prices are causing problems for them. As for prices in China and other developing countries, well this gets back to what I said earlier that I quite doubt AMD wants to try and change market dynamics in those countries.

                    • inthiseconomy on 17/07/2024 - 04:43

                      @Nil Einne: These chinese companies selling on aliexpress aren't big, they're just like 10 people in an office/warehouse. They don't have enough volume to get any sort of the decent discount from AMD, the only companies getting discount are going to the likes of Dell, HP, MSI etc that are buying in the hundreds of thousands to millions of units.
                      Intel publicly lists their 1K units price for direct orders from them and it's the same as the recommended retail price. Retailers like pbtech aren't making much, if any, money on CPUs, they're loss leaders.
                      AMD keeps their pricing tight, they barely have to give any margin up as they have a market duopoly with Intel which uses the same strategy, and they wouldn't be selling to these random chinese companies, as it'd be undercutting their actual distribution channels.

                      They can't be paying less than 2/3s of the retail price through any legitimate channel.

          • chunder on 16/07/2024 - 15:27

            @inthiseconomy: Because they've been pulled from retired systems and bought en-mass. Company name "XYZ systems" needs to update all their hardware, so they go and buy 100 new PC's with a Ryzen 7 7700x. Or maybe their company failed and they're being liquidated.
            Now they need to get rid of all these systems with a Ryzen 5 5600.
            They sell their entire catalog to the highest bidder sight unseen - which means the price being paid is pretty low because a buyer buying this much is unlikely to want the systems or all of the parts in them, and must factor for systems which are dead on arrival, as well as further catalogging and dealing with everything themselves in order to make a profit.
            The buyer then parts out everything and sells it individually.

            Second hand CPU's, bought in large quantities. That's why they're cheaper, but they're usually only $50-$100 cheaper than buying new locally or importing from the US. It's not like they're so significantly cheaper the price is unreasonable.

            • inthiseconomy on 16/07/2024 - 17:25

              @chunder:

              Nothing dodgy about it.

              They are just false advertising and selling second hand CPU's

              I was working off the assumption that they were new, because that's how they're listed, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were lying about it.

              I could believe it if it was just a few CPUs, but there's multiple companies selling hundreds of these CPUs, mostly all the same few models, and it doesn't seem to be a one-off, they all have a constant supply.

              The company from the linked aliexpress store also sells motherboards, with retail packaging, and for the most part they seem to be priced as what I'd expect them to be.

              Because they've been pulled from retired systems and bought en-mass. Company name "XYZ systems" needs to update all their hardware, so they go and buy 100 new PC's with a Ryzen 7 7700x. Or maybe their company failed and they're being liquidated.

              1. The 5700X3D came out this year, and that seems to be their most sold product, I don't believe there'd be anywhere near enough volume for them to be from 'retired systems' and liquidations.

              2. If they were from 'retired systems' and liquidations, the supply wouldn't be consistent, but these companies are basically built entirely on selling CPUs.

              All I'm saying is, it's dodgy because I have no idea where they get these CPUs from, you have no idea where they get them from, and no one else actually knows where they get them from.

              • Nil Einne on 17/07/2024 - 03:20

                @inthiseconomy: As I said above, I'm fairly Chunder is wrong, there are new CPUs on AliExpress. There are also used ones. Sellers will lie as they always do, so you cannot be sure that your new CPU is new, but many of them quite likely are new given the reasons you and I outline.

                The market supply of used CPUs will vary, but so does the price. As the demand goes up and the supply dwindles, price goes up and of course then demand will likely go down as people chose different models or new CPUs or something. When we're talking about the older CPUs especially 3000 series although even some of the older 5000 series, there are likely enough used CPUs at the moment to meet the demand. Still if it does run out, then new or other used models will take over. You'll see fewer sellers and what sellers that still have them list them at a price that no one will buy them.

                I've also bought used Xeon 26xx v3 CPUs, and I've seen these market dynamics play out. "X99" (LGA-2011v3) motherboards from AliExpress etc were popular for a time, but they're starting to lose out to cheap more modern systems, so the prices are bottoming out. Only a few higher clocked or high core count ones still command a decent price. And other CPUs can have it even worse, e.g. there was European seller giving away AM3 or something CPUs with orders.

                For that matter, I was unfortunately caught out by the crazy demand during early 2021 and was looking to buy a used AM4 CPU and kept seeing the prices going up and realised I either had to bite the bullet or wait a few months. AliPrice and other such sites don't work very well for these sort of things IMO but still I did find some Youtube videos and stuff suggesting prices had gone up 20-30% or so since late 2020.

    • gske on 16/07/2024 - 10:55

      yeah i bought one last month, was 260$ though, way worth it

  • fdkflanelkfnw on 15/07/2024 - 20:54
    -3

    I got the 5950x almost 4 years ago in 2020. Why are people still buying it in 2024….

    • coffeee on 15/07/2024 - 21:10

      because they are good, the last upgrade till you have to get a new socket and ram.

    • MyFriendAutism on 15/07/2024 - 21:12
      +2

      AM4 legacy. Unless you already are on a 5000 series(i'm on a 3700x) then AM4 offers plenty of CPU upgrade options.

    • Huntakillaz on 16/07/2024 - 07:42

      Coz itll be the last upgrade and then they can wait it out till AM6 in 2028 ish

  • zyfinity on 15/07/2024 - 22:10

    it was on sale for $199 USD about a month ago on amazon (even though a few price trackers for some reason don't seem to show that)

    • Dunno on 16/07/2024 - 00:33

      +GST added in cart

      • zyfinity on 16/07/2024 - 19:28

        yep but this deal is $224 before GST

  • moxpearl on 16/07/2024 - 09:00

    Can anyone recommend a good cheap cooler for the 5700x3d?

    • Fox419 on 16/07/2024 - 10:26
      +1

      Thermalright Peerless Assassin is one off the top of my head.

      https://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=11485774

      GamersNexus has a written and video review
      https://gamersnexus.net/coolers/champ-41-thermalright-peerle…

      • Nil Einne on 16/07/2024 - 11:17
        +1

        Seems they're reasonably priced even in NZ now. I remember when I was looking about this time last year, the price in NZ was still crazy but you could get them at a good price on Amazon Australia sold by suomole except they kept selling out. It looks like suomole on Amazon Australia is probably still cheaper and realistically warranty on a HSF past problems obvious from arrival, still it's close enough worth considering supporting local retailers IMO.

      • 1ys23 on 16/07/2024 - 13:36

        Yea I have one it's pretty good for the price. Amazon should have them cheaper that's where I got mine :) it was like 50 from memory for single fan one :)

  • apas023 on 16/07/2024 - 10:20

    Still rocking the ryzen 5 3600, however, feels a little sluggish now. Thanks for posting OP might pick one of these up!

  • bentpins on 17/07/2024 - 10:15

    An alternative that's a good deal right now on AliExpress is
    JGINYUE B650i Night Devil ITX (about $170 NZD)
    https://maidavale.org/blog/jginyue-b650i-night-devil/
    +
    AMD Ryzen 5 7500F (about $200)

    This gets you on the AM5 platform, and the 7500F is practically a 7600 at a bargain (without iGPU, -100Mhz). JGINYUE is a lesser known brand but they are recognised by AMD and have done some good bios updates.
    I wouldn't suggest going this route unless you know it's better for you - but the performance for the price is great, and you can dedicate more money towards a GPU. Plus you can slot in a better AM5 down the road when they drop in price.

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