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Tesla 3 $68,632 ($60,107 with Clean Car Discount) @ tesla

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Elons done it again and dropped the price of the tesla 3. For those that didn't pull the trigger last time now you can finally afford to join the revolution. Batteries included.
$68,632 minus $8625 (Clean Car Discount)

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  • +10 votes

    Great deal but about 3 times over budge for me!

  • +3 votes

    Surely Elon can knock another 0 off the price for us cheapies

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    How much fuel/ servicing can you save by buying a tsla?

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      Site estimated $8,200 saving on fuel alone but best to do your own calculations.

    • +1 vote

      Depend's what you are comparing to, and what mileage you do. Can save $2,000 - $5,000 a year depending on mileage you are doing.

      As a rule of thumb smaller ev's use 15 - 20kWh /100km if you want to run your own numbers based on your power price.

      Note that insurance is very expensive on these, typically above $2000 a year. And if you want to stick with performance tires they cost a bit too.

    • -1 vote

      Average medium-size vehicle does 15,000 km per year, equals $2400 at 8 L per hundred kilometres. A medium-size diesel car would pay around $1100 in road user charges.
      And yes, if all things being equal an electric car is more expensive to run if you calculated the 40% plus premium price , hi insurance cost, road user charges, battery replacement and disposal in five to 8 years' time.

      • +1 vote

        yep thanks, i still cant justify buying a 60k car based purely on cost and savings. Better to go with a hybrid at this stage

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        There is every indication that the model 3's battery will last the life of the vehicle, buy everything else you have written is fairly fair.

        If you run a comparison with a used Aqua / Prius, the model 3's insurance costs & tire costs alone will consume most/all of the fuel savings at typical mileage. All without the $60k capital outlay.

        But of course the model 3 is build to compete with the BMW 3 series, not an aqua…

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          Tesla 3 has only been out for four years and already there's been quite a few cars not living up to the hype of the battery life. They have a eight-year warranty on the battery but that only means they replace battery with like for like and not a new battery so time will tell I suppose. Tesla doesn't have innovative technology it's the same technology as a mobile phone, if you fast charging it shortens the battery life, if you fully discharge and fully recharge it can last just 5 years of practical use and 8 years with medium use. The eight-year warranty only covers below 70% capacity so in practical terms it's a 40% drop in range.

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            @pdevonporf: Should note the Model 3 that is shipping to NZ at the moment has the LFP batter chemistry which is widely regarded as having better lifespan than the chemistry used by the USA built cars.

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              @scott: Yes that's true but the funny thing is that's old technology mainly for low demand and long life applications and cheaper batteries to produce. The upside is yes you will get more life out of the battery but also less performance and, they charge slowly and have less range. I presume this is the Chinese made model and it's not going to well. There are complaints about range in particular, slow charging in cold weather as well as quality control issues.

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    Unsure if coincidence but I've been seeing more around Wellington lately

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      Yeah, Tesla's everywhere. Lots of people with too much money about.

  • +1 vote

    Is there a way to get the long range and the ev subsidy?

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      Doesn't look like it, as it would put you over the 80k limit. While you can order the driver assist upgrade after delivery, changing from rear-wheel to all-wheel drive and increasing the battery isn't just a software update.

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      Yeah its pretty close to the limit, maybe next price reduction.

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      Currently no.

      Lobby your MP to get rid of the cap, hence allowing a greater variety of used EV's when you come to sell it. Current policy is going to result in massive numbers of base model 3's, and ioniq's, but few longer range or AWD / 4wd awd models.

      You could also lobby Tesla to game the cap. They could unbundle stuff like the mobile charger, and offer it with the 18 inch wheels, and / or software limit stuff with the option of a compelling upgrade after purchase.

      • +1 vote

        Not going to happen, as it's not a good look politically subsidising a few rich people buying Porsche Taycans - much of the NZ fleet consist of cars between $5k-$15k. The goal I think is to cover the Tesla Model 3 (I do expect Elon to do another price cut next year with MIC LRs) and its peers. EV prices will fall quite a bit in the next few years.

        As for Tesla, they may unbundle some stuff to get it under 80k, but NZ is perhaps too small a market for them to care.

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          You are probiably right, but it is a disappointing outcome.

          Means relatively much fewer long range tesla's will make it into the used market in a few years time.

          Means that the versions only the version of the base ioniq 5 with the 750kg tow rating will get the rebate, not every other trim level which get the larger battery and a 1600kg tow rating. Likely results in much less EV's that can tow in the used market.

          Basically rules out 4x4 Pure electric vehicles to compete with the likes of the ranger / prado / Hiace from getting the rebate. No way that a non-Chinese brand vehicle of this type plus a $40k electric drive-train can come in under $80k

          We need EV's of all type in the used market, not just hatchbacks, 2wd road focused SUV's, and tesla model 3 SR+

          • +1 vote

            @scott: I expect Ford and Toyota will go the hybrid/PHEV route long-term for utes, which is eligible for a partial rebate even if they're just compliance vehicles with minimal electric range. However the NZ market is tiny and they may just do the minimum necessary (e.g. software engine detune) to get their utes into the zero band short-term - but then the feebate system needs to be self-funded and I expect the zero band threshold will go down in the future.

            As for pure-EV utes, the Chinese brands will be the only ones in the market that will qualify for the rebate. If Ford brings in a pure EV ranger it will be well over $80k. VW may also take a punt but Toyota will stay hybrid/PHEV.

            The govt is also taking a look at potential FBT abuse by many double-cab ute owners, So some tradies may end up trading-in their utes for the EV company van, which are cheaper and may qualify for the rebate.

            • +1 vote

              @Avantime: 2022? Ranger PHEV might struggle to get under the $80k cap too. It's going to be the range topping power-train, making something like 270kW, and I think it is only offered on better trims.

              We seem in agreement that there is no way a non china EV ute will come in under $80k.

              Decent non-china full EV vans's are still likely to above the $80k price cap. The toyota proace specs look good (it's a rebadged version of the Citroen e-Dispatch, Peugeot e-Expert and Vauxhall Vivaro-e), but its base price (50kWh) is GBP34,630, and the range topping 75kWh version is GBP39,463. With shipping, and typical NZ rip off margin both versions are unlikely to sell here for under NZD80k…

              Many commercial uses will need the bigger battery size, especially for deliveries, or multi site use with ladders etc on the roof.

  • +2 votes

    if i only had $60000 more in my account

  • +2 votes

    Not gonna buy an electric car until batteries have a solid electrolyte solution.

  • +7 votes

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    • +6 votes

      These look like discount codes for Tesla

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      Yesterday, I saw a tesla with number plate RIPGAS.

      • +1 vote

        Saw one "I AM AI"

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          5KYNET, SKYN3T, IR0B0T, DISUFO, WOTUFO, ONEUFO… available

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            @nachos: Are you trying to tell us something, lol? Don't use autopilot, or Elon is an alien?

            • +1 vote

              @The Hound: Both statements bear some truth I guess. I always thought Zuckerberg was more like an android.

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          East Auckland? Pretty sure I saw the same one or a variation of this

      • +1 vote

        LOLGAS spotted on a red Tesla S ages ago 👍

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          There are many variations of LOLGAS. I know someone with L0LGAS black Tesla S.

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    Not the best deal yet, I'm waiting for buy one get one half price.

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      i like your style

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      Perhaps for those small China made EVs, but they won't be allowed to sell them here.