EV Wall charger with DLB and WIFI 7.4kW: Socket $629.10, 2 to 1 Cable $774, 2 to 2 Cable $774 + Ship/C&C @ Smart EV Chargers

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Grab 10% off either socket or cable version of this charger. Features:

Features:
Scheduled charging – edit and add multiple schedules.
Dynamic load balance to monitor your house hold current.
Solar ready, adjust the charge current based on the solar input with the included second CT clamp.
32A 7.2KW Charging or vary the charge rate from the app.
RFID card control.
IP54 weather proof and can be mounted outdoors with no issues.
Input cable can be installed from the bottom or the back to hide the cable.
Led indicator ring light around the charge port
OCCP 1.6j Compatible
App compatible with Apple and Android
Built in DC protection

This charger is able to add around 50km of charge per hour to your car.

Solar Mode
With the included CT clamp installed on the output of your inverter the charger will automatically adjust its output to match what your solar is generating.
So if you are generating 20amps of solar this will be diverted to your car and will automatically adjust up and down so you wont export energy to the grid while the car is charging.

Dynamic Load balance
Install the included CT clamp at the mains and this will monitor your total house draw. If this draw exceeds the maximum limit the charge rate will be reduced to avoid tripping the breaker.
Great if you get free hour of power so you can run everything with out blowing a fuse

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Comments

  • Price in title OP

  • I bought one of these 2 years ago and it has been great. Highly recommended!

  • Don't know much about EV chargers. Are these fast chargers? if I would get one of these now for a cheap Nissan Leaf, would that be a good charger for any modern EV after or are there other fast charger types that would be preferable?

    • +1

      Currently all home chargers will use the AC charger port so will not be "fast" chargers, these will however be around double a wall socket speeds.

      The nerdy details:
      Charging EVs the batteries are DC, the super fast chargers do direct DC charging to the battery at speeds of up to 50kW on a leaf.

      When using AC charging there is an AC to DC inverter in the car that converts the AC power to DC for the battery. This component is what determines how fast your car can charge from an AC socket. The vast majority of nissan leafs that are 40kWh or below have a 3.6kW inverter on board so that's your maximum charging rate.

      A normal 230v sockets charges at about 1.8kW
      This thing would charge you at about 3.6kW

      This also gives you scope for if you upgrade to another EV to charge that one at 7kW if the on board charger can take that charge rate.

    • As detailed above, but in layman terms this is the fastest you can charge at home on a single phase connection if you're car supports it.

    • +1

      You need to google the difference between DC (fastcharging) and AC charging ( typically at home). This charger will charge about 4 x faster than a charger you plug into a normal 230v socket. A 24kwh Leaf can only AC charge at half of this amount anyway, however this is still twice as fast as the portable charger you normally get with the car. We charge for 3 hours for free everynight adding about 60km of range which is plenty for our leaf :) We got the charger without a cable and bought a seperate type 2 to type 1 cable that suits our leaf, this means we can still use this charger for a newer EV with a different cable if needed. It would be worth reading their website as it explains all of the different chargers.

    • +1

      Usually the term "fast charger" for EV's is used for DC fast chargers of 25 kW or more.

      The "Charger" in the headline is a AC "chargers". If we are going to be picky, they are not actually chargers, the box simply tells the car the max power it can supply, a bunch of safety checks are done, and the car tells the box to turn on the power which it does with an electronic switch. Actual conversion to DC power is done by the car.

      The one in the headline is a 32 Amp single phase charger. Actual power will vary depending on voltage, but typically around 7.2kW.

      They also have a three phase version (Currently out of stock) This can do 3 x 32A, for a max 22kW charge rate. But of course this requires you have three phase power at your house. Most houses do not have this, and the upgrade can be expensive.

      In terms of charge speeds for a nissan leaf sized car

      1.8 kW: 10 km/h (domestic 10 Amp socket at 8A as per work-safe guidance if there is not temp monitoring)
      3.6 kW: 20 km/h (single phase 16A, max charge rate of my 2014 Nissan leaf)
      7.2 kW: 40 km/h (single phase 32A, max charge rate of the 64kWh Kona's)
      11 kW: 60 km/h (3 phase 16A, max charge of most newer high end EV's. Model Y, EV6 etc)
      22 kW: 120 km/h (3 phase 32A, rare charge rate. Either modern very high end EV's like Cadillac Lyriq (Standard), Porsche Taycan (optional upgrade from 11kW), and some older EV's that don't support DC fast charging (Renault Zoe, BYD E6).

      32 Amps of current is the most the Type 2 socket supports (Technically it is possible to do 62A with plug temperature monitoring, but that is pretty much obsolete these days as modern cars rely on DC charging for anything over 22kW.

      Note that there is not a pressing need to charge crazy fast at home. As long as you can fit your typical daily usage into your off peak power window, there is not a heap of gains from going faster. For example if you have an 8 hour night rate period with octopus, and a 3.6 kW charger, that is enough to replenish ~160 km of range. As long as you average under 160 km per day, your car will slowly approach fully charged. (and in a rare event that you do two epic day trips back to back, you can lean on public fast charging).

      In summary, for Most NZ houses with single phase power, the fastest charger you can install (without paying for an expensive 3 phase upgrade) is one of these 32A single phase unit's. Even with an upgraded EV, as long as you don't drive 300+ km/s every day, back to back this is fast enough, and would be considered future proofed

      But if you have 3 power, might as well get a 3 phase one installed. Drops the 0-100% charge time of say a 100 kWh EV9 from 14 hours to 9 hours. (noting that the situation's that you would return home with low charge warnings flashing, and be wanting to drive 450+ km the next day is rare).

      It is possible to buy a DC fast charger at home, but unless you have an extreme use case (say you like to go water skiing by towing a largish boat to a lake a 160km round trip away in the morning, come home for a few hours in the middle of the day, then go fishing by towing the boat to the ocean a similar distance away in the evening) it is expensive and offers no real advantages. A 30 kW DC fast charger is on this vendors webpage at $13,110, and you will need a lot of electrical capacity to accommodate it.

      • Excellent explanations from all of you, thanks heaps!

        Our use case is, that my wife got a new work location, which requires her to do a 108km roundtrip commute each day.

        I was considering to buy a used 85% SOC 2nd Gen Nissan Leaf and using the 3h free power to charge it at night from 9-12. From what I understood is that even with a 7.4kw charger I have a limit of 6.6kw from the car itself which means in 3h I could charge 119km which could be fine considering that the 40kw version has a 240-270km range.

        Does this sound like an realistic option for my use case?

        • +1

          Should work fine for you. If she is doing 108km round trip, I assume some is open road? Open road the range would be maybe 180km, less in winter. Which is still fine for what you need for a long time yet. Depends where you are though, if in a colder region, you may need to allow a bit longer to charge it back up as it will use more of the range up than a nice sunny, warm day.

        • Be aware many leaf's incl mine have a 3.6 kW (might be 3.3 KW) charger.

          This will replenish ~60 km in the free 3 hour window, with the balance being outside of the free window.

          Some have a 6.6 kW charger. Rare for 40 kWh cars, but common for 62 kWh cars. My numbers are a but rough, but yeah, would get about 120km from 3 hours charging.

          You can tell which version of charger the car has by seeing if the 6 kW charge time appears in the menu

          https://preview.redd.it/2018-nissan-leaf-6-6kw-v0-905ame5hl5…

          Or by opening the bonnet and looking at the shape of the charger cover.

          https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=162&topicid=30…

          40 kWh leaf's with the 6.6kWh charger do exist, but it may take a few hours scrolling trade-me looking for under bonnet photos to find one.

          On the leaf ~240km is the range when new. Assuming you buy one with a ~85% state of health battery, the range would be about 204km.

          If you start the day at 80% (good for battery longevity), she should arrive home on ~27%.

          And if it ends up my estimate is a bit off and that she is arriving home with not enough safety margin, you can charge to 100%. 40 kWh leaf's are getting cheap enough you don't really need to baby them.

          An alternate option could be a BYD E6. These are built to handle commercial taxi use, have about a 300km range, and an extremely durable LFP battery (no issue storing these at 80%). Less efficient than a 40kWh leaf, no fast charging, but a lot more range, and able to suck down as much juice as you throw at it with an AC charger.

          https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/byd/other/listing/53…

          In general, for a long commute, and EV + a power plan with free hours should result in big running cost savings vs petrol.

  • They are not charges. They are power supply plugs; they don't manufacture a high current. They have to be supplied with it and to get 3.6 kW they need to be wired appropriately, like a wall oven and induction stove for instance 32-amp 7,680 watts Maximum. In NZ10A or 2400 Watts for a standard wall plug. The EV is actually the charger itself.

  • Anyone able to give an idea of installation cost?

    • If next to the circuit board, then ballpark, $300. If 7m away, then hundreds of $ more. Get a few quotes from no cow boys' listed sparkies near you.
      Mention that the charger doesn't need an RCD Type B as the protection is already built-in and that will save you $400-$700 in install costs.

  • It claims to be OCCP 1.6j compatible, has anyone got this talking to Home Assistant via the OCCP add-on or some other method?

  • Is there any reason to pick the "Autel Maxi Charger AC Wallbox 7.4kW WIFI" over the "Smart EV Wall charger with DLB and WIFI 7.4kW"?

  • Does this have a build in RCD like the Tesla Charger which is $850?

    • It's got the equivalent of an RCD Type B built in. You still need a normal cheap RCD though.

      • A dedicated 40A RCD would be at least $100 plus fitting I would think. When this is factored in it's not such good value.

        • What’s not good value?

        • They stock a combo RCBO and isolator switch for $88, which electrician can use. There are no cheaper options I can find for a smart charger anywhere near this overall price (OCCP 1.6j, app control, 2 CT clamps for DLB and solar).

          One nice part vs many alternatives is that after initial setup via Tuya the OCCP works without needing network access so it can run locally with something like Home Assistant

          • @gooblue: have you got instructions to set his up?

  • I have two of these, they are great.
    Socket one for the Leaf, with potential to change cable in the future when we upgrade to a better Type 2 EV.

  • These use the "Tuya" Smart Device App for those who are interested in researching it's capabilities before purchase.

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