An old laptop is getting a bit slow..looking to add another ram for now instead of buying a new one,
where is the best place to source it? Quick google and found this:
Dick Smith $31.05
PBTech selling one at $260
or should i get it from Amazon AU? Cheers
It's a Dell Inspiron 7566,
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
DDR4 SODIMM 8GB 2133MHz Ram
I guess i need to have the 2nd ram with the same clock speed?
Which mean the Dick Smith one won't work?
Am i better off replaced the existing one and buy 2x at the same time?
Just wondering how much would the RAM help
Basically if you have a system that runs at 2133 and use 3200 it will down clock the memory to match the system.
Voltage and cas latency matter too but yet again the system will match it.
Ram may help with performance if needed check task manager and see how much is being used.
In this case can i buy 2x8gb 3200mhz or 2x16gb-3200mhz to replace the existing 1x8gb 2133mhz ram?
How do i find out what is the maximum speed my laptop motherboard support? (Dell 042NDD A00)
The Memory at the Task Manager is constantly at 80% even i only using browser at the moment without doing anything else
@doubledippps: It doesn't for free, but this set does, plus it's faster and cheaper: https://amzn.asia/d/bUaiPCA
@Kiwi: Sorry did a search on google, so there will be no problem using a higher mhz ram on a slower motherboard?
I did a checkout test, how did you get free shipping? Im getting a $11 shipping. Cheers
Edit: Seem like the delievery fees is deducted at the end
@doubledippps: Na, it'll work fine. Honestly you'd barely notice the speed difference anyway, the capacity you would and the specs suggest it can have an M2 NVME drive, so I would suggest getting one of those too, 1TB are well under $100 these days. That'd make a huge difference as Drcspy and ace310 mentioned below. Something like this: https://amzn.asia/d/fNYx4Vk Under $200 total and it'd feel like new.
@Kiwi: Thanks mate for both the links for RAM and SSD, save me heaps of time!! How did you find products that will ship to NZ and free shipping? I try to search for the Inspiron 7566 battery on Amazon AU but no luck
@Kiwi: @Kiwi on this listing Patriot P300 M.2 PCIe Gen 3 x4 1TB SSD- P300P1TBM28 at the details it said "Connectivity technology: SATA" "Connector Type: SATA", just wondering is this a NVME or a SATA..still try to figuring all this terms here…
@doubledippps: No worries, it's definitely not SATA, just Amazon being shit. Messages below have some better products, but this is an example of something that you could replace both of your existing NVME and your mechanical drive and still have a few hundred GB extra, less weight, slightly longer battery life, less moving parts.
The part number of my existing RAM is HMA81GS6AFR8N-UH,
is that mean it's a 2400mhz ram?
When i checked Task Manager > Performance, it showed 2133
does it have a mechanical storage drive or an SSD. If it's a mechanical one then your most bang for buck upgrade would be to change to an SSD that will make a HUGE difference
According to this
What Dell Inspiron 15 7566 memory speed is supported?
DDR4-2400 and DDR4-2666
Also here
And as mentioned above by Drcspy, upgrade to ssd if you don't have it. I see that m2 ssd is part of upgrade as well. Check if you have m2 slot, if yes get a 256/512gb m2 as your boot drive and use the existing as the storage one.
Hardrive are these:
C: Sandisk Z400s 128GB M.2 2280 SSD
D: Toshiba MQ01ABF050 500GB SATA 3.0 GB/s 5400RPM 2.5 Inch 7mm Internal Hard Drive
SSD but only 128gb, should I upgrade the drive also?
Absolutely. I would recommend replace d drive with a 1tb ssd and see how it goes.
@Drcspt @ace310 cheers mate, should I use the new SSD as boot drive or just leave it and swap the 500gb one out
M.2 SSD is different from mechanical/Sata SSD
So replace the M.2
or keep the M.2 and replace the HDD
The HDD is the slowest part of your system so the less you Access it the better.
1-2TB will be plenty in either case. Ideally get one that TLC with DRAM Cache. There's been a few drives posted previously that should help you figure out which ones are good
I would recommend just replace 500gb with a 1tb/2tb ssd. Leave 128gb as your boot for now. See how you go. As mentioned above that hdd is your bottleneck.
Secondly, you need to make sure nothing is installed on your d drive. Use some free software to do image copy of your hdd to ssd.
Depends on what they use the laptop for, the deals they get and how much they want to spend. Also with Nvme have to check if laptop can take double sided or not as per comments here
This should help anyone else trying to figure out what's best setup as well (Good write up about SSD/NVME NAND flash here too) :
Say like 2TB SSD NVME @3000/2000MB/s is better than 2TB SSD SATA @560/510MB/s
Then you save most stuff to the nvme and the HDD is just rarely accessed stuff.
PBTech has MX500 SSD SATA 560/510MB/s 7mm
1TB $98.99 / 2TB $199
PP.co.nz has Team Group MP34 NVME 3500/2900MB/s 3.8mm
2TB $151 / 4TB $319 Delivered
Samsung 980 NVME 3500/3000MB/s 2.38mm DRAM-less
1TB 98.99
For other drives I reccomend looking up ozbargin on whether the drive is good or not, lots has been covered in the comments, but basically:
You want TLC (also known as 3Bit MLC) + DRAM cache for main drive, editing etc where lots of writes to the drive happen.
QLC and no DRAM drives are fine for like games drive or photos/movie/tv show storage where it's mostly reading data from the drive happening
SLC(1Bit) > MLC(2Bit) > TLC (3Bit) > QLC(4Bit)
Use Macrium Reflect free version to clone the drive onto the new one (will require usb external enclosure if you only have the laptop)
Like for me I use my desktop more so I'd upgrade my desktop drives and move the older ssd/nvme I had to the laptop.
Thank you for all these links mate, took me quite a while reading & googling to find what's the differences, think i will go with the m2 NVME and replaced the boot drive, and upgraded the RAM as Kiwi suggested [TEAMGROUP Elite DDR4 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) 3200MHz] (https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08T17RQ87?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp…)
How do i know if my laptop can support double sided NVME or single sided only?
Defiinitely use it as the main 'boot' drive !!! You will be very suprised at the difference in speed. Just be sure you have the correct M2 drive theres a couple different ones ah - M slot and B slot If I recall correctly. OR get a 2.5" Sata ssd which will directly replace any mechanical drive in the device. Either take it to some tech you know or a tech shop or do it yourself if you're confident but you'll need to CLONE the boot drive onto the new ssd. Then when you have that done you can do the physical drive swap. It's possible that there is facility on the laptop to simply plug in your new M2 drive but still run it from the original mechanical drive THEN you can do a clone onto the new drive with both drives installed and after that go into the bios and change the boot drive to the M2 drive. Once you are happy it's all working you could then use the old mechanical drive as extra storage, (format/wipe it). You could even save system images onto it so that in the event of a system meltdown you could reinstate the image back to the boot drive and fix some issue that's arisen. Anyway that may be more info than you want but hope it helps.
@Drcspy I just bought a M.2 NVME SSD today, do you have any website/video I can watch to use the HDD as temporary boot and clone it to the new M.2 NVME SSD?
Other option is to buy a enclosure (a NVME & Sata compatible one so I can use it on the 128gb m.2 Sata after that) but looking at Amazon it will only delivery on 28/08.
Just physically install the new M2 drive. Leave the old drive in. Boot the system. Clone the existing system onto the new drive. Then reboot and change the boot order to the M2. Later you can remove the old drive or whatever you want. OR you can can write an image of the old drive onto another external drive and then you can access anything you want off that image if you like. Macrium Reflect enables all these functions. Then you could wipe the old drive with it still installed in your machine and use it as extra internal storage.
This is the step i found online:
1. Make a system image of the existing SSD
2. Save it to the Mechanical HDD
3. Make a bootable Macrium Refect Free rescue drive on 32gb USB drive
4. Install the new SSD
5. Boot computer from the Macrium Reflect rescue drive
6. Restore the system image from the SATA HDD to the new SSD.
or to make sure the rescue drive works:
1. Create the rescue drive 1st on USB
2. Boot the computer from USB rescue drive
3. Then save the image of the old SSD to the HDD.
4. Install the new SSD
5. Boot computer from the Macrium Reflect rescue drive
6. Restore the system image from the SATA HDD to the new SSD.
Not sure these steps up to date or suit my case, any advice appreciated please!
Or you could use it as a chance to clean install Windows and then manually copy the files over? Probably a good idea if you haven't done that in the past 6 - 12 months.
Yes would prefer that, do i use Macrium to create an image only for clean install window? Point me a keywords i can google it please
You just need a USB drive, anything over 8GB.
Then backup your files somewhere, then download the second one from here "Create Windows 11 Installation Media" and run it against the USB drive: https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
Now remove the old hard drive/s, connect the new one, plug in the USB drive and turn it on, the rest should be relatively straightforward, just ask if you get stuck.
@Kiwi: Thank you for this, for the backup i assume i can just move everything i want to keep from old C drive to my HDD D drive is that right, as D drive will be remain untouch during my SSD swap?
@doubledippps: For backup firstly make sure you have cloned the drive successfully to the SSD and then assuming the original drive can remain in the computer just change the boot order to the SSD and leave the old drive in there for storage and backup.
@Drcspy: Sounds like small NVMe to 1TB NVMe, in that case just manually copying files to the mechanical drive would be fine, then clean install on the new M2 and copy back what you need.
I disagree. Clean installing Windows then having to setup all your stuff again isn't necessarily something I'd suggest to an inexperienced user. It's quite a process to setup all your programs and etc again, especially if you have installed things that require you to know product keys and etc. Also re-instating your browsers with passwords, favorites etc has indeed become simpler IF you have this stuff backed up to Google for instance but you have to do that first and you have to know about that otherwise it gets a bit complex. If your Windows installation is running fine then just CLONE it onto the new drive and 'Keep calm and carry on' under the
"If it ain't broke don't fix it" banner.
Personal opinion I suppose, OP has options either way. OP does sounds more than capable of doing the install, long gone are the days of manual partitioning etc.
Does the computer have the capability to have both the original drive and the M2 installed concurrently ?
If so do that then boot as normal. Install Macrium Reflect and use it to CLONE the original drive onto the SSD. Then reboot and go into the BIOS and change the boot order so it boots to the SSD……. you should be all good then. Just make sure that when you clone if the SSD is larger than the original drive, (which I presume it is), that you set up the Clone so it uses the entire new drive space. If you can't, (and sorry I cant recall how Cloning works with Macrium it's a while since I did one then after you've done the clone and BEFORE you reboot to the new drive grab a copy of some free partition manager and make sure you use it to MERGE the UNALLOCATED part of the new drive into the cloned partition.
Bit more info on the laptop?
Most laptops can adjust the speed of the ram even if its over its max spec
Performance could also be caused by somthing else like an aging HDD or thermal stress
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MEMCRU079602/Crucial-8GB-DD…
That Official HP ram is the most expensive way to buy it