Seeking Early Testers for My Budgeting App

Hey fellow Cheapies!

Surely there's nothing more cheap than penny-pinching, Scrooging and miserly watching where every dollar was spent? Well, I'm developing a brand new smart budgeting app to help ordinary Kiwis answer the simple question, "Where is all my money going?!" I know there are dozens of budgeting apps around but I'm hoping this one turns into something a little different.

I'm looking for some (very) early testers who are familiar with other budgeting apps and can provide me some direction on where to head with it. In particular:

  • What provides you with the most immediate value?
  • What do you want to see when you log in?
  • What do you like?
  • What do you not like?
  • What are some features you'd like to have?

The app is already functional and useful, but there are some known bugs and inconsistencies which will be smoothed out over time. I'm working on it in my spare time around family and fulltime work. Happy to answer any technical questions about it here or via DM.

Access is currently limited. Initially I'll provide you a private login to a demo site, all you need to provide is an email address. No bank details or logins are required at this stage, the demo site uses dummy data to give you an idea of how it works. As soon as I get permission to open my app to the public (see below), you'll be granted access to the live site where you can connect your accounts and see your own data.

IMPORTANT: If you like what you see, can give some honest feedback / helpful suggestions, maybe even answer a survey or two to assist with the future of the app, in return I can offer you a free Premium subscription for the life of the service when it launches. This will initially be limited to the first 10 people to DM me telling me what you use/have used to budget in the past and one feature you wish your budget had.

Answers in advance:

  • What can this app do?
    Right now it's a basic budgeting app: think transaction categorisation, budgets, searching/sorting/filtering. It has some limited AI capabilities built-in to help with smart categorisation, and this will be extended soon to do all sorts of useful things with your transaction data. But there is a LOT more to come.

  • What? I don't want my transaction data sent to AI!!
    Yeah, I get why you'd be concerned. The AI features are super-useful and they save a ton of time and I've worked very hard to make sure that my app doesn't send any personally-identifiable data, with more protections to come. But, if you don't want the AI features you'll be able to turn them off - the app is still very capable without AI.

  • What sort of data can I use in the app?
    You can connect most bank accounts, many investment and kiwisaver accounts, and more to get transaction data, that's where it all begins. I use the Akahu service to provide transaction data from your accounts - head over to Akahu.nz to find out more. The "Big Four" banks all have Open Banking connections, but Akahu provides data from other institutions via other means which will be switched to Open Banking as they come onboard.

  • When will you launch?
    I'm waiting to get certified by Akahu so I can allow others to sign up for personal accounts. Until then I am only allowed to provide a (fairly functional) demo. Hopefully in the next few weeks the accreditation should be completed and I can open it as a staged public beta.

  • How much will it cost?
    To be honest, I have no idea. Akahu will charge me somewhere in the vicinity of a couple of bucks a month per user to provide the data, then there are LLM costs, hosting costs, domain registrations and more. I would love to provide it free for everyone, but I need to ensure it's sustainable so I'm looking for other ways to fund it: partnerships, referrals, whitelabelling, freemium models, etc. I'm trying to avoid ads. I'm also hoping to open-source the core platform so people can run a basic version at home (for free with an Akahu developer account, and optionally using their own local LLM).

  • Who is Akahu? Can they be trusted?
    Absolutely. Akahu is a registered Open Banking intermediary, which means they have passed stringent quality and security tests. They provide data for developes (like myself) to provide services to others.

  • Is it secure?
    Yes, very. All data is encrypted with your typical "bank-grade" encryption in transit and at rest. Each workspace provides a place to manage separate account data - eg. Home business, Personal, Shared accounts, etc. You only grant the workspace access to the accounts you want in the app. You can optionally share Workspaces with others (eg. contributor access to a partner, read-only access for your accountant). Everything is protected with a password or passkey and optional MFA. Importantly, with the Akahu Open Banking system all account data is strictly read-only (even a fully compromised system cannot steal money, transfer, change settings, etc).

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  • I wish you success with this.

    Though I'm not looking for such an app at present as the value is not yet apparent to me, i do think I have feedback I can provide from trying to budget in the past using apps and self built.

    May I ask why you want to do this via dm? Wouldn't it be better in public?

    • Hey, thank you so much for the response. Yeah, I think that you've hit the nail on the head, people don't know why it would provide value. I'm biased obviously, but I think that (except for those who are already running a tight budget) most people could really do with a much better view of where their money is going, how they are tracking, and what they could do to reach their financial goals sooner: paying off debt, the next big purchase, preparing for retirement, etc.

      It's still in the relatively early stages of development, I'm not quite equipped to handle a ton of traffic just yet, so I'm only looking for a handful of volunteers for now. Rest assured, as soon as I'm ready to scale it up I'll be posting here for more people to give it a test drive.

      • Hey there, thanks for coming back to me, Just out of interest, what tech does your product use?

        • Great question. For the tech heads out there it's currently ReactJS/Typescript front end and back, running on CloudFlare infra using Workers, Workers AI and D1. It's got all the benefits of security and availability/scalability that CloudFlare can provide, with good low cost starting plans for small players like me.

          I considered a number of different platforms, I'm most familiar with Azure, k8s and .NET, but CloudFlare has been a surprisingly smooth transition and I'm pretty happy with it so far.

          Feel free to DM if you have any specific questions about how it's built.

  • Ill do it

    • Awesome, thanks! DM me your email address with the details I've asked for above and I'll send you an email with a sign up link.

  • I'll give it a go :D

    • Thank you! Please DM me your email address with the details I've asked for above and I'll send you an email with a sign up link.

  • Keen to take a look

    • Got your DM, thanks!

  • Hey team and watchers,

    Thanks for your patience and thanks to those who have volunteered to help! The first few invitations went out last night, I'm looking forward to hear initial thoughts.

    There is still space for a few more testers - please send me your email address and answer the questions above: this really helps me know where to focus my attention.

    It's a two-way street: If you just send me your email address and contribute nothing, then I won't be offering you the lifetime subscription. I'm looking for volunteers who can either give their experience, shape the direction of the product, give thorough and honest reviews, or offer specialist development, UX or testing skills. I know, the criteria's a little subjective but we're a community, right? We help each other and both benefit.

    In any case, when this launches publicly you can rest assured there will be a Cheapies-only deal as my way of saying "thanks" to this great community.

  • Hey again team… Big news: My app is officially Akahu accredited! 🥳 I can take on real customers. This app has also been security tested by the great team at WiseFox for your peace of mind.

    Huge thanks to everyone who has helped test it out. Some massive updates recently, and we're finally (finally) ready to launch!

    Recent updates:
    - Mobile app via PWA, huge improvements on mobile screens and usability
    - All new dashboard will be released on Wednesday
    - "Safe to Spend" indicator and other helpful features
    - Improved rules engine, editing
    - Improved regular payments handling
    - Improved payment sync
    - Notifications and alerts

    I'll be inviting the original testers to the new site tomorrow. All testers will be provided with a free lifetime Pro membership as promised.

    For 24 hours only, I'll reopen the invitation: if you've been sitting on the fence about this, wondering if this random dude was serious, DM me for an invitation. If you can provide some product feedback you'll also get a lifetime subscription for FREE. Offer closes 7pm tomorrow.

    https://showmethemoney.co.nz/

    • Congrats. Looking forward to using it for real.

    • I would like to try, just want to know how much personal data does it collect from using it? No offense, my friend is in it told me not to download apps if possible. Thanks

      • You have a careful friend, and if you're not technical then yes, downloading and installing apps can definitely come with risks.

        First up: I "collect" a fair amount of personal data, as you might fairly guess: your name, email address, bank transaction data and anything else you decide to enter into the system. However this is protected with high strength encryption, securely stored, and never shared without your explicit permission.

        I cannot see your transactions, and nothing in the system (even if your account were to be hijacked) can steal or transfer money from your accounts: Show Me The Money only has read-only access to your transactions. If you or your friend want to know the technical lengths I go to in order to keep your data safe, you can read our Privacy Policy, or feel free to shoot me an email and I'd be happy to talk you through the details. I'm confident that your data is safe. And Akahu (who provide the Open Banking access to your data) are confident as well: they have accredited SMTM which means that it meets their stringent requirements.

        You don't have to install SMTM if you don't want: it's available as a website with no install required. But installation does give additional features: notifications, easier login, etc.

        I'll invite you and you can decide if you would like to join. It would be great to have you with us.

        • Thanks. I will check with my friend.

          • @Superpower21: Just FYI, a lot of apps are like this. Wallet by BudgetBakers, etc all do this. How do you expect these apps to know your transactions, without reading them? Sure, there are apps that can take manual data import in CSV or some other format, but then you'd have to do that constantly and it's a pain. It's always a balance and trade-off between security and ease of use. But considering it's read-only at your transactions, I don't see what the problem is. I've used apps like this in the past, never had issues with them.

  • Hey again team, thanks for those who have tested so far - I've got some great feedback already and a few bug reports!

    I'm gearing up to open this a bit wider - does anyone else want to take the demo site for a spin, no obligation?

  • Sign me up. I currently use Wallet by BudgetBackers (I have lifetime premium) and they have automatic bank sync with most NZ banks, allows you to create rules to automatically tag and label each transaction, so that the next time you spend money there, it automatically sorts your spend into the proper category, etc. It does a lot of reporting as well. I'm very into this sort of stuff, so I could probably provide a lot of valuaable feedback.

    • Awesome! Thanks @NovaAlpha - please DM me your email address and I'll send you an invitation. No spam, I promise!

  • Hey team, here's the latest update for those lurkers who haven't contacted me yet for an invite (or didn't click the invite link I sent them before it expired):

    • Things are moving forward! I released a major update on Monday with a ton of fixes and new features. It's now pretty close to feature-complete, with just a few remaining areas left to polish before launch.
    • I've engaged an independent security pen-testing firm who will be checking the app against common vulnerabilities, this will take a few weeks depending on availability.
    • I'm still willing to offer a few more lifetime Premium subscriptions if you can help me test it and provide feedback in the next couple of weeks.

    As soon as it launches, you Cheapies will be the first to know about it :)

  • Yay! Cant wait to get started

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