Powerline Adapters - Whats the best one/cheap/effective option

Hey Guys,

Recently moved houses and set up my office and computer room upstairs. It does not have an ethernet port and the moderm is downstairs.

Looking into other options right now, I have a wireless mesh system but the download speed is really low when I pay for Fibre max.

Has powerline adapters been any different based on your experiences and what is a good option out there?

Thanks everyone!

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  • By chance do you have TV aerial outlets in the two locations? If so you could potentially use MoCa depending on the type of cable that's been run.

    • No there is no TV aerial in the other room. Is there anything else it needs for that connection?

  • Have set them up a few years ago on occasion for people with success. They might even be better tech now.

    • From what i've seen and the products that are out not much innovation has been done and its the same products as the years before.

      • Also which ones have you set up?

        • Sorry too long ago to remember

  • WiFi can be pretty great, if your other devices are able to achieve good speeds (apple devices or high end androids should give you a good idea on the speeds you could expect) on the WiFi I'd look into buying a better WiFi card for your PC. Make sure to use 5ghz.

    • I actually have the wifi extender connected directly to my PC, and its still not good enough tbh. So that's why I'm looking into other options.

      • A WiFi extender is only giving you the connection that it's able to get from the source. If it's right next to your PC, your PC would be getting the same/very similar signal itself.

    • Second this - have an old (11 year) PC sitting on a wifi connection that happily downloads at 100+ mbits (probably more - normally looks limited by the other end of the download) and functions perfectly as a media server for 4k movies etc.

  • I used powerline adapters a few years ago they were better than i expected make sure you get the ones with gigabit ethernet ports.

    • Thanks will look at these options, seeing on marketplace rn possibly look at full price stuff if i can't find anything.

  • If you can't run cables, best option is to have additional mesh nodes. Try to keep them bit closer if you can as they also need to talk to each other.

    Maybe have a look at Dong Knows for more suggestions

    • I have 2 at the moment, 1 is connected via the main bedroom directly to the ethernet and the other is in the room next to the mainbedroom which has the wireless node. My computer is connected via ethernet to this node.

      Will look at dong knows and see if it helps!

      • I saw you mentioned, it's a newish home. Does that mean you have atleast one ethernet port upstairs and one downstairs. Assuming the fibre box is either in garage or walkway with all ethernet cables ending up their.

        I would put main router in/near the junction box next to fibre box. Connect all the nodes via cable and get a wifi adapter for your computer if it's not possible to get the cable in office area.

        It should be something like
        ONT box -> Router -> Connect all the cables from rooms to lan port of the router. -> Now you can connect any mesh node to any room with ethernet port.

  • I have setup alot of powerline kits when I was in IT .
    Its a system of last resort , to use when nothing else does.
    They work great when you cant get a good wifi signal between floors , or when wifi is poor at the other end of the house.
    I used to use one in my house .

    Wifi extenders / boosters are a waste of time.
    If you cant run cables , then a mesh system wont help you .

    Get a kit that has a built in wifi access point , many dont .
    I used to install ones similar to this
    https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NETTPL0422/TP-Link-TL-WPA42…

  • I am on a very old about 7 year old google mesh 1st generation wifi set up with 4 nodes connected to main in a about 100 sq meter
    house.
    I get about 300 mbps to 600 ish mbps stable SMB file share on linux server which runs webapps with cloudflare tunnel on a wireless node which i stream videos when away from my house
    every thing works very well on this old wireless mesh system i kind of never had any issues besides swapping out 3 of the nodes which died out with 2nd hand replacement .
    300 mbps is ok ish for few 1080p streams . may can easily do two at least 4 k streaming .
    the point is you dont really need a fixed wired connection unless your running NAS or DAS or ceph and editing videos on it if you do you need 10 gbps switch and fixed wired connection
    Just IMO.

    • Thing is i pay for terabyte wifi so I want to get the max out of it right now im getting 150 mbps and making downloading especially torrents so long.

      Another hit is gaming, my ping and packet loss are insane and im skipping everywhere. So i need good enough speeds and a stable connection to stop this from happening.

      • looks like you need 10gigabit switch and cat 7 cables set up fixed wired not sure if any powerline adapter does 10gbps .

        • Absolutely not. Even a 1gig network on cat5e cable is more than enough. He is talking about torrents & gaming, both are constraints with internet bandwidth which is 900mbps in his case. So anything above 1gig is totally not worth it. Even for local data transfers 2.5g network is kind of overkill but acceptable. Do you think you will be transferring multi-gig files between devices every minute to justify 10g network?

          • @ace310: may be he would be video recording his gaming with obs and then using nas ceph for video storage and editing i dont know may be 2.5g seems enough for 1gibit fiber

      • Assume you mean 1 Gbps down . 500 Mbps up fiber connection.

        Anything faster than this (2,4 & 8 Gbps hyperfiber) is getting a bit specialized and needs special networking gear (but that has got to a price where I am seriously considering it).

        For the best possible speed & Ping you need to run wires (I fitted Cat6 structured wiring DIY to every room of my house, but some locations are difficult to get to.) Consider if this is an option - As long as you buy faceplates that match the power sockets, a landlord is unlikely to care (or even notice).

        • Thats another part that I'm considering is hiring someone to have this fitted into the room but it might be out of my budget. We own the house so thats not an issue.

  • +1

    If it's a newish house then you're likely to have issues with running powerline adaptors. The two power points have to be on the same circuit and you also can't have them on any which have an RCD device in the fuse board.

    Am running them for a security camera between a couple of rooms and they work fine. Specific model is D-Link-DHP-601AV AV2 1Gbps but they're a few years old. Previously had (10 yrs ago) TP-LINK TL-PA211-KIT 200Mbps which didn't work as well. You can have the old set if you want to test if they'll work.

    • Hey Sorry for the late reply, it is a newish house, but around 100 sqm two storey.

      Would love to test the old one you have to see if it is a viable option.

      Let me know how to arrange for this. :)

      • Enable private messages on your account and I'll send a message.

  • What mesh are you running? An alternative option is potentially upgrading your mesh set up to one with a dedicated backhaul channel, this may free up a lot of capacity to feed your devices with.

    This will be dependant on if your issue is lack of signal or too much bandwidth being consumed and only help with the latter problem.

    • Currently running a 2 mesh, 1 connected directly to wall upstairs and the other in the room connected to ethernet on pc.

  • Just as a update to anyone whos sees this, the main issue I have is that before moving I torrented/gamed(competitive FPS) alot prior to moving on a ethernet connection.

    I need really low ping for gaming and a connection where I didn't have alot of packet loss.

    Downloading and ping are the main issues esp since i have for 900 download and 500 upload.

    • For torrenting (depending on what media), consider getting a NAS or similar hardwired and next to your data.

      For competitive FPS, I suggest you won't ever be happy with anything but the best, and the best is running ethernet. Usually it is possible (with power tools and a bunch of effort)

    • i too am onto competitive fps games and ran into this problem - ended up just buying a 30m cat6 cable and ran it into the attic and pulled it out of an old telephone socket line to to where my desktop is. i used to run a long ethernet cable from another room but it was uglier (though still achieved the speeds and latency). I bought a powerline kit to test for the tv downstairs, while adequate i wouldnt game on it, the speeds and latency were severely degraded.

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